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	<title>Comments on: Moms &amp; Au Pairs: Can I hold us to different tv rules?</title>
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		<title>By: NewAPMama</title>
		<link>http://AuPairMom.com/moms-au-pairs-can-i-hold-us-to-different-tv-rules/2010/02/04/celiaharquail/comment-page-1/#comment-11929</link>
		<dc:creator>NewAPMama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering our aupair is the same religion as us (one of the reasons she matched with us and us with her), no, I don&#039;t see it as odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering our aupair is the same religion as us (one of the reasons she matched with us and us with her), no, I don&#8217;t see it as odd.</p>
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		<title>By: annonamamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>annonamamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, NewAPMama, If you think no TV is demanding, have you considered that making your AP worship with you is pretty darn demanding!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, NewAPMama, If you think no TV is demanding, have you considered that making your AP worship with you is pretty darn demanding!?</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://AuPairMom.com/moms-au-pairs-can-i-hold-us-to-different-tv-rules/2010/02/04/celiaharquail/comment-page-1/#comment-11924</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NewAPMama - 

You come across as very judgmental of others&#039; expectations for their APs, yet I&#039;m pretty sure you wrote elsewhere on the site that you yourself have some requirements or expectations for your AP that are a bit out of the ordinary -- i.e. that your AP must attend church services with you every Sunday.  You said you disclose this unusual requirement to prospective APs, and that is your prerogative to require this.  But, why would a no-TV rule be any less compassionate or fair than compulsory church service attendance?  

Many HP come to this site to bounce ideas off other HP to get a sense of what is reasonable.  I believe that OCD mom was trying to make the point that in her opinion a no TV rule is reasonable, and used her family&#039;s situation to illustrate how it worked.  You don&#039;t have that rule - fine.  OCD mom also shared an opinion that a 9 hour work day without a TV break is reasonable to expect.  You don&#039;t agree - again, fine. 

It is possible to disagree without telling other HP their expectations are some kind of cruel and uncompassionate treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NewAPMama &#8211; </p>
<p>You come across as very judgmental of others&#8217; expectations for their APs, yet I&#8217;m pretty sure you wrote elsewhere on the site that you yourself have some requirements or expectations for your AP that are a bit out of the ordinary &#8212; i.e. that your AP must attend church services with you every Sunday.  You said you disclose this unusual requirement to prospective APs, and that is your prerogative to require this.  But, why would a no-TV rule be any less compassionate or fair than compulsory church service attendance?  </p>
<p>Many HP come to this site to bounce ideas off other HP to get a sense of what is reasonable.  I believe that OCD mom was trying to make the point that in her opinion a no TV rule is reasonable, and used her family&#8217;s situation to illustrate how it worked.  You don&#8217;t have that rule &#8211; fine.  OCD mom also shared an opinion that a 9 hour work day without a TV break is reasonable to expect.  You don&#8217;t agree &#8211; again, fine. </p>
<p>It is possible to disagree without telling other HP their expectations are some kind of cruel and uncompassionate treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://AuPairMom.com/moms-au-pairs-can-i-hold-us-to-different-tv-rules/2010/02/04/celiaharquail/comment-page-1/#comment-11923</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree!! <img src='http://AuPairMom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not if their friends&#039; parents are like-minded!
And not if their parents don&#039;t let them go there.

I have a no TV rule (my kids are allowed 30 min of video a day max, and not every day), and IMHO there is no problem with it. If I heard from my au pair that it is a &quot;problem&quot;, that would get me thinking... not about my rule, but about her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not if their friends&#8217; parents are like-minded!<br />
And not if their parents don&#8217;t let them go there.</p>
<p>I have a no TV rule (my kids are allowed 30 min of video a day max, and not every day), and IMHO there is no problem with it. If I heard from my au pair that it is a &#8220;problem&#8221;, that would get me thinking&#8230; not about my rule, but about her.</p>
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		<title>By: Taking a Computer Lunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taking a Computer Lunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think of letting the kids watch TV is the same as &quot;having a break.&quot; If I were to go home and find my kids watching TV and my AP in her room and on the computer with the door closed I would hit the roof.

There are days when my AP works 9 hours, but neither HD or I are home while that happens. We both work outside the home and need to trust that the AP is doing her job while we are away. When my kids were babies, the schedule was fairly rigorous, but they both took naps, so the AP could take the baby monitor down to the computer room, nap, or watch TV. As they grew older, we encouraged independent play, so that the AP wasn&#039;t their playmate for 9 hours straight. Our APs often arranged playdates with their friends, and the kids played together while the APs chatted. This was fine with me, because I liked the socialization for my kids.

Now that my kids are school age, the AP rarely works 9-hour days, but when she does, I expect a little bit of planning on her part - some activities outside the home, some inside. The Camel is capable of playing by herself for long stretches, but needs to be fed, diapered, and constantly monitored while she is in her swimming pool. She needs to bear weight on her legs to prevent fractures later. My son, at 9, is incredibly independent, but needs assistance in booking playdates, monitoring TV time (limited to 1 hour on weekdays - even in summer and 2 hours at weekends - only exception is a fever).

I am not going to go home so my au pair can have a break. And I do not want her to treat TV as a plug-in drug. I do expect, that just as on weekends when I am with the kids, that there will be ebb and flow in her day so that she&#039;s not &quot;on&quot; every minute.

The working conditions for APs are not all that different from home health care workers (nurses, aides, attendants), so the AP/factory worker is a false analogy. Comparing your AP to a home health aide is probably the closest analogy, except I hope that she has developed a more loving relationship with your children (having had The Camel cared for by home nurses - they did their job well but none ever loved her half as much as any of my APs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think of letting the kids watch TV is the same as &#8220;having a break.&#8221; If I were to go home and find my kids watching TV and my AP in her room and on the computer with the door closed I would hit the roof.</p>
<p>There are days when my AP works 9 hours, but neither HD or I are home while that happens. We both work outside the home and need to trust that the AP is doing her job while we are away. When my kids were babies, the schedule was fairly rigorous, but they both took naps, so the AP could take the baby monitor down to the computer room, nap, or watch TV. As they grew older, we encouraged independent play, so that the AP wasn&#8217;t their playmate for 9 hours straight. Our APs often arranged playdates with their friends, and the kids played together while the APs chatted. This was fine with me, because I liked the socialization for my kids.</p>
<p>Now that my kids are school age, the AP rarely works 9-hour days, but when she does, I expect a little bit of planning on her part &#8211; some activities outside the home, some inside. The Camel is capable of playing by herself for long stretches, but needs to be fed, diapered, and constantly monitored while she is in her swimming pool. She needs to bear weight on her legs to prevent fractures later. My son, at 9, is incredibly independent, but needs assistance in booking playdates, monitoring TV time (limited to 1 hour on weekdays &#8211; even in summer and 2 hours at weekends &#8211; only exception is a fever).</p>
<p>I am not going to go home so my au pair can have a break. And I do not want her to treat TV as a plug-in drug. I do expect, that just as on weekends when I am with the kids, that there will be ebb and flow in her day so that she&#8217;s not &#8220;on&#8221; every minute.</p>
<p>The working conditions for APs are not all that different from home health care workers (nurses, aides, attendants), so the AP/factory worker is a false analogy. Comparing your AP to a home health aide is probably the closest analogy, except I hope that she has developed a more loving relationship with your children (having had The Camel cared for by home nurses &#8211; they did their job well but none ever loved her half as much as any of my APs).</p>
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		<title>By: Host Mommy Dearest</title>
		<link>http://AuPairMom.com/moms-au-pairs-can-i-hold-us-to-different-tv-rules/2010/02/04/celiaharquail/comment-page-1/#comment-11914</link>
		<dc:creator>Host Mommy Dearest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh NewAPMama. Do you see how your comment may come across as inflamatory or judgemental?

&quot;But the rest of you can treat your aupair how you like.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh NewAPMama. Do you see how your comment may come across as inflamatory or judgemental?</p>
<p>&#8220;But the rest of you can treat your aupair how you like.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: NewAPMama</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewAPMama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right. Being an AP is not the same as working in an assembly line. I doubt they are in charge of another human beings safety and well-being. I don&#039;t know about your AP&#039;s, but mine is. Working with children is not like most jobs, unless you are in the medical field, so please don&#039;t try to make that comparison. I am honest enough to recognize that my children are not perfect, and are capable of making life very hard for the aupair on a given day. The oldest does not nap, so my aupair is with her every moment she is on duty. So yes, I do feel a break (and not just to eat) is in order. But the rest of you can treat your aupair how you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right. Being an AP is not the same as working in an assembly line. I doubt they are in charge of another human beings safety and well-being. I don&#8217;t know about your AP&#8217;s, but mine is. Working with children is not like most jobs, unless you are in the medical field, so please don&#8217;t try to make that comparison. I am honest enough to recognize that my children are not perfect, and are capable of making life very hard for the aupair on a given day. The oldest does not nap, so my aupair is with her every moment she is on duty. So yes, I do feel a break (and not just to eat) is in order. But the rest of you can treat your aupair how you like.</p>
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		<title>By: Aupairgal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aupairgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the problem with a no tv rule: eventually they will just go to their friends houses and watch tv non stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the problem with a no tv rule: eventually they will just go to their friends houses and watch tv non stop.</p>
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		<title>By: SotaGal</title>
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		<dc:creator>SotaGal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TV is on at our house, my DH relies on it for background noise and also tunes in in his office as another way to stay connected with his job.  Our most recent AP has been great about turning the TV off more often or not turning it on in the first place and I love that!  We do allow the kids to watch tv - with AP and parents - but we watch kid friendly shows.  So we don&#039;t allow our AP to watch say Oprah or Regis and Kelly while she&#039;s working but she&#039;s welcome to use any of the DVR&#039;s to record shows that are on while she&#039;s working.  We also hold ourselves to that rule, so no soaps or talk shows while I&#039;m with the kids either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV is on at our house, my DH relies on it for background noise and also tunes in in his office as another way to stay connected with his job.  Our most recent AP has been great about turning the TV off more often or not turning it on in the first place and I love that!  We do allow the kids to watch tv &#8211; with AP and parents &#8211; but we watch kid friendly shows.  So we don&#8217;t allow our AP to watch say Oprah or Regis and Kelly while she&#8217;s working but she&#8217;s welcome to use any of the DVR&#8217;s to record shows that are on while she&#8217;s working.  We also hold ourselves to that rule, so no soaps or talk shows while I&#8217;m with the kids either.</p>
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